>>0x00001a

> do you have a dommy mommy fetish

hm... maybe i am just used to it... or i am just "weak man" who need to be pushed around to do anything, really (sadly)

>>0x00001b

> I wonder how long it will take porc to answer all these questions

until nobo notices, post about it on forum, > until i notice he just did > until i reply (me, peeking over the hedge be like:)

Have a nice, great day, weekend (if can) and <all i could say, was said in "Prologue" of this AMA> - who asked me again about "why i...", mainly about "why am i like that", good sir, sir - it was answered (i suppose) in embeds, to be seen here: !!! (ah, /shrug)

>>0x000004

///If i forgot to answer some stuff or if i didnt make a clear line on some things, just ask.

i wrote "the script" because i noticed and reacted upon me-sided ~hostility~. i did that because (for [how] the xth time [i] said---,) --- i strive for attention (i guess?), direction ~ see the answer about "dommy mommy fetish", above...

will wait for other AMAs if you need like it. what i said in the start (of this, "AMA"), - is that +-, quote of >>0x0..002,

> "I wrote it because I wanted to see weird stuff. How [they] hate [him, SP (me)] because… Basically of what we saw today, because every time he posts, it is either pain or nonsense, or both at once - I wanted to wrote how HK finally snaps and reverse Carrie force leads others to "randomly" (fate? plot?) meet, despite all odds."

(wanted to write for sake of it, because it was, at the moment, funny to me. and still kind of is. no means to be mean-spirited. wrote it as kind-hearted critique of circlejerk we had...)

>>0x000013

> What will you do next?

no idea. trying to connect (source) subgenres of VW now. you can see it here: https://vaporwave.fandom.com/wiki/Subgenres

>>0x000015

> I've said my piece and am not going to waste any more time arguing over this unless it's with Porcupine himself.

- what is here to be known, then, sir?

>>0x000017

> Damn, and I thought this was an AMA, not a debate..

- many such cases. i thought "schizo forum" was about vaporwave or conspiracies. but chat, tbh, kills it a lot... good (mostly) that chat got disabled view on offline/guests. (/n, continues below:)

- less quality posts, more of drama. i guess it is not mensa, yet, i cant deny even in mensa theyd have "regards" moment about gossip and id hate it the same, lol. just my nature... if you notice how risingthumb/aaron texts, im just lite version of that (ok, tuned out by 79%) XD #poastgoals

>>0x000019

> Why do you type so strangely? What led you to wanting to connect all the threads in the forum in such incomprensible manner?

- i p(o)asted my WHY above in the starters of this thread. but these are new so i go with it.

i guess being ESL, i forgot/never noticed how englishmen chat so i just write in "slovak order" but in english, word-for-word formula. can be eyesore on OSV-VSO (or so) differences and minuscule language/chat nuances!

- i wanted to elim. doubleposts, make tags group similar threads (until that worked. after that, i make it a "function" of discoverability than SEO. i just wanted to help shrug)

> I am sure there is internal logic to your method, but through the years I could never tell what hidden connections you saw when tagging the threads like you did.

- oh. about that. sometimes i got "spaghetti thinking", when things reminds me of each other, but in maybe synesthesia-kind of way...

>>0x00001c

*

> <<p: insane until i get lunch or olovrant (brunch)

>>0x00000f

> A ban kicks someone out entirely. Counteractive measures stops the unwanted behavior without kicking the user out for good. It's like saying that if your kid is hungry and they keep complaining, don't feed them food. Kick them out of the house since both solutions stop you from hearing the kid complain

-punp and answers to him said it best, i said to him too upon first few warnings, that id try to revert the tags or try to be better but also that ~id prolly forget <so, to that>~

>>0x000010

> I like porc but the quality of the forum suffers when

> basically this is allowed.

- it is not, i overstepped, because i "felt funky", as i often do (i.e. making crass humor, schizoanswers or playing stupid/dumb, disagreeing for sake of feeling "unique" even if i agree but making me feel hurt in kind of way "not being genius" i want to be - selfish needs...

> porc needs to learn to post more coherently otherwise he will never be accepted anywhere

- thinking id write and reply in slovak then, but it is too late then. maybe it is just chat and users quantity (than quality, but that is for to explain some other time) which makes me whorey (edgy, "horny" for being weird... not that much pleasure, than audience... and power of internet, opinions on web (something to 45% similar to “The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”, but more about creating that love by force than being vurnerable...))

>>0x000008

<<p: thank you

>>0x000009

> Some_Porcupine, how would you have felt if you hadn't ate breakfast today?

<<p: insne until i got lunch or olovrant (brunch)

>>0x00000b

"> [(thought) speech shared with/by (f.n.) ##3]"

> what programming lang is this?

<<it is script, with ()s descr.-ing action/footage/sounds. ~ f.n. states "frequently named" i think

>>0x00000c

> A few users are already claiming things like your fanfic being sexfic, since they were never able to see it and now the mods deleted the original.

<<it was not, tho, it was (i think, ~now) non-sex "kink" where i "flanged" myself about how others see me (which tracked - banned, described as <now/on forum/ in "rip users" /thread, in text> and got "proven" [tho for other reasons too, which i find... fair ~ thought i was helping...])

> Defamation was to be expected, however I was surprised by how quickly the jannies were supported by people who seldomly posted or interacted with you. Do you have any thoughts on that?

<<hehe same idea/shock. i get it but still "crass" to see. well... i made it myself, how i portrayed Me/Self, as someone "better", because without that, id be just no-one, not interesting... (thanks, tv! thanks, youtube! thanks, millennials! what a dream!!! /cyn...)

> I support the porc in exile.

<<wait: do you support me as exilant, or as of being put there, "finally"?

>>0x00000c

> A few users are already claiming things like your fanfic being sexfic, since they were never able to see it and now the mods deleted the original.

i didnt edited it, just closed it in "nsfl" spoiled. that it got deleted, was expected. didnt meant it to be, it was just poking fun of forum, cliques and my fantasy of how i see myself as "good/cool", when in fact i do this over myself to be/feel important...

I wonder how long it will take porc to answer all these questions

>>0x000002

> If I had maybe I wouldn't loose time somewhere of denial about "coolness". I wanted to be as you edgelords. I parroted after Vit and Eris who are seen as "cowboys" but when I do, "kind flower", oh woe, you expect for "it" to be unscathed.

> (^something similar to what i already replied to you upon your writing to me - "i wanna be like you (Vit, Eris, Boxer...)"-phrase)

> wrote weird self-therapy fanfic about Vit and her husband in thread about agora users

do you have a dommy mommy fetish

BarbarousKing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ4bS2F2GH8

Why do you type so strangely? What led you to wanting to connect all the threads in the forum in such incomprensible manner?

I am sure there is internal logic to your method, but through the years I could never tell what hidden connections you saw when tsgging the threads like you did.

>>0x000016

> crying over being banned from a forum on another forum is the most pathetic look imaginable

and yet somehow still less pathetic than 95% of shit threads here that get posted on /main/

>>0x000001

crying over being banned from a forum on another forum is the most pathetic look imaginable

>>0x000012

> So if someone is being annoying with things like tagging, guess what? Xenforo (the forum software that powers Agora) allows mods and admins to prevent users in specific roles from messing with thread tags. The solution is just to put that person into a role that doesn't allow tagging. That solves the behavior and allows the user to still participate on the forums

Okay, his tagging is annoying. Petition the admin to create a new user role just for him so he can't tag threads. He also spams links in chat, so you ban him from the chat or create a special chat room where he's isolated from everyone else. He keeps making threads and posts that most people find completely incomprehensible, so you limit him to a special sub-forum or make it so he has to ask permission before making a post. What's left for him to participate in at that point? You are policing everything he does and are effectively telling him "we are going to hold your hand until you start doing everything differently." And now, if you want to at least try to be fair, you're also committing yourself to doing all this stuff for every other user who might make a bunch of incomprehensible posts in the future. By creating all these special cases for this one particular user you've blurred the line between what is and isn't considered acceptable and have created a bunch of pointless containment forums/chats that make controlling the forum discourse more complicated, all while still effectively removing him from the site and accomplishing exactly the same thing as a ban. It would be pure mental gymnastics, all to get around having to say the b-word. What's worse, committing to that kind of hand-holding and hands-on moderation would set a bad precedent for the site in the future. I am not going to let Agora turn into another old web forum with a long list of rules and moderators who watch everyone like prison guards.

I've said my piece and am not going to waste any more time arguing over this unless it's with Porcupine himself.

Did the internet run out of porn or something?

some_porcupine: "I got banned"

drama whores: "Quiet honey, we're talking about you, not to you"

>>0x000001

are you boreal cryptid?

>>0x000011

> To use this same analogy (which is a stupid one because it implies that not being able to post on a website is as serious as starving to death), "corrective measures" in this situation would have meant locking the kid in a closet where nobody could hear him instead of kicking him out

Actually, it's an apt analogy because it compares appropriate levels of severity when it comes to responding to events. You modified the example to add nothing to it because both kicking the kid out and locking them in the closet would be excessive and the wrong solution

> I think you're just offended at the general concept of banning someone from posting on a website and are trying to pretend that coming up with a bunch of arbitrary rules designed to prevent a particular person from doing 99% of what they come to a website to do is somehow better because it technically isn't a ban.

Clearly you haven't been put into any sort of position of authority before, so I'll spell it out for you: moderators, or anyone with authority over a situation, are put in place to keep things in control. They have tools in place to help them to do this. Banning is an obvious one because it is generally the most extreme and one that people don't want to have happen since it involves removing a person entirely from the situation

So if someone is being annoying with things like tagging, guess what? Xenforo (the forum software that powers Agora) allows mods and admins to prevent users in specific roles from messing with thread tags. The solution is just to put that person into a role that doesn't allow tagging. That solves the behavior and allows the user to still participate on the forums

>>0x00000f

> A ban kicks someone out entirely. Counteractive measures stops the unwanted behavior without kicking the user out for good. It's like saying that if your kid is hungry and they keep complaining, don't feed them food. Kick them out of the house since both solutions stop you from hearing the kid complain

To use this same analogy (which is a stupid one because it implies that not being able to post on a website is as serious as starving to death), "corrective measures" in this situation would have meant locking the kid in a closet where nobody could hear him instead of kicking him out. It's the same result with less bullshit and beating around the bush about what you're actually doing.

I think you're just offended at the general concept of banning someone from posting on a website and are trying to pretend that coming up with a bunch of arbitrary rules designed to prevent a particular person from doing 99% of what they come to a website to do is somehow better because it technically isn't a ban.

I like porc but the quality of the forum suffers when

> dsafdsf hello dsafjklsdflk what dsfjlkdfsjlksdfsfdajksdf am kjsdf i ljkfsd saying aljksdfa who ljksdfa really ljksdfa knows ljksdfa i jkldfsa guess jklfsd it aljksdfa does kjldfsa not ljkdfsa matter ljksdfa

basically this is allowed.

porc needs to learn to post more coherrently otherwise he will never be accepted anywhere

>>0x00000e

> Sounds functionally identical to a ban on posting to me.

A ban kicks someone out entirely. Counteractive measures stops the unwanted behavior without kicking the user out for good. It's like saying that if your kid is hungry and they keep complaining, don't feed them food. Kick them out of the house since both solutions stop you from hearing the kid complain

>>0x00000d

> All of these things could be solved by ignoring Porc and/or limiting what he can do through adjusting user permissions in Xenforo. The jannies are literally retarded

Sounds functionally identical to a ban on posting to me.

A few users are already claiming things like your fanfic being sexfic, since they were never able to see it and now the mods deleted the original.

Difamation was to be expected, however I was surprised by how quickly the jannies were supported by people who seldomly posted or interacted with you. Do you have any thoughts on that?

I support the porc in exile.

> [(thought) speech shared with/by (f.n.) ##3]

what programming lang is this?

Some_Porcupine, how would you have felt if you hadn't ate breakfast today?

Porc, I appreciate you posting this in the right board.

I'm sorry about what happened. If anyone wants to talk to you here, I'll allow it.

>>0x000001

> https://bharatchan.com/

I wouldn't have had any problem with this post on /main/ if you had done something like

Indian Altchan, "Hi, this is an Indian culture chan, are there other Indians here?"

See rules on self promotion, "The problem is never the plug; the low effort is the problem. If you're going to post a quality post in the correct thread that includes links to your stuff, I'm very inclined to allow it. But otherwise fuck off."

Moved to /trash/

S>>0x000001

" *Porcupine had been:

Repeatedly flooding threads with low-quality replies and cross-links to other threads that were only tangentially related to the one he was posting in.

Making new threads where every post was copy-pasted from either another thread or another website.

Repeatedly flooding the chats with YouTube embeds that nobody watched.

Repeatedly flooding the chats with copy-pasted tweets and articles that nobody read.

Repeatedly spam-tagging threads with tags that didn't make any sense and that broke the search engine by making it turn up faulty results.

Repeatedly copy-pasting site content, including chat logs, into various AI things and either leaking it to the wider internet or reposting it back here."

[h:]

"You mean THAT? Well... I wonder if IT could get WORSE [haha]..."

---

##1: (*=thought, if not stated otherwise; uses reverberated echo)

*Should I pity him, or should I be aware of what could be? Is this what awaits all, sooner or later? Is there, and of those on Agora, at last, chance there awokens someone so out of touch, yet someone who hate those types, that he becomes hated by all? Couldn't be me! No. Who I am laughting at. Many times before, I thought, but I deny, how there is little difference between most 'vile' ******s. From *to **, no one seems to be safe when time comes of them. Because

[(thought) speech shared with/by (f.n.) ##3]

there's a water boiling for every swine. One moment, you are awarded, another - exploited and kicked in corner by wannabe be-good globalists-betterpeople(sh)[...]*

/time skip/

SP: So it came to this. Was I bad, was I good, The truth is, you can't outrun yourself because there is no one left, then. Abandoned by all, denying (self-)love, all there is it to admit - there are no limits. If I was or wasn't, it isn't on me, - because no one can see above the limits of one's perceptions! Posse or not, it is vaporwave (or not), because if not, they don't play modern pop there anyway! So, play then, vaporwave!!! Teh purrfect critique!!!

/Whole "bus" cheers/

the "fanfic" in question (amost forgot):

/Arc: ##1 (

___

(camera: scene:)

##1 (for himself; aloud):

Why! For the love of God, why! How many times I have to say to that twerp, vaporwave is when... [ah]. It is not like I don't like him, but maybe I do ...!

S_P (thinking): [self]

I wonder. While HK was bit weird yesterday, I wonder how is our relationship, actually. I might get him, yet, maybe I don't want to know because I am in denial and when I try, it is only worse... Fuck it we ball, gonna make some posse art, post it and pretend how on-nose it is; everyone does...

##(V)2:

"Fummie look! Total spergout in chat again!"

V's husband:

"No surprise, yet --- fummie? How."

##2:

"Teehee. You know what? It get really tiresome how we bicker on about S_P. What he thinks! I am the queen(king) of chat! But if I will post all the time, others will assume I am as bad and dull- as him! If he is h[e, one wonders], lalala[...]" (/shared speech/thoughts with ##1, at the same time.)

[husband]: "I---will pretend like I don't care. But you make me worry at times like these. What can I do, 'Florida -...', they say[...]"

##2:

"Noted. Now, [where were I...] - do you see it! Again! How that place can be so... [ah] Time to log off, or [together with HK, at the same time:] I will come and kick S_P's ass!"

[h:]

"Woah. From what I 'learned' of him, that guy/dude/emo kid must be fucked as hell. On other hand, So... No. They sound pretty alike at times. Bay-da-wei, do you think who is worse, Pickle, Vetu, Denver Asexual, the q... nes... Nesquik, Parzival, S_P or Antoine? They are all so... Lol[...]"

###: But can I ask you something: Why are you like "this"? Not implying anything, but I was always confused as to "who" or "what" was you; A bot? An insane person? A character? An ARG? Why you write like this? Why were you called "Porcupine"? This kind of thing, you know, lol.

reply in embeds

But I doubt that even if others would get it, or better that terrible part with V-h got deleted, the form, still, misses something crucial, yet to be believed/solved.

I think, basically, that all I wanted was to write something for the (fun's/whim) sake of it and then let others finish it, as all I can think of, is funny, jokes, innuendos or totally random things too long and complex to ever get explained in talking manner.

I wanted to be remembered no matter what, and that was kinda a wish-came true, also with no matter what -way. I thought I am the next Polansky, and for like the third time, just sperg out bollocks in and out, so I'd feel special (what others think, anyway…) and not like someone who… Need to cope with "everybody got it the same", the way proponents of "reverse (white ivory tower lit-ac "decolonize!" tumblr girl -sorts) racism" tend to do - to my dismay to not be that obtuse when also still denying I cope so -not…

Have a nice day! (Meant sincerely. I am not mad, I will maybe be in the future, like week~month from now, but now I am just a little sad but also alway knew that the more "cool" I am, the more "corrupted" I am underneath all that (as the saying with a tree goes).)

"I got no chill", chat?

If I had maybe I wouldn't loose time somewhere of denial about "coolness". I wanted to be as you edgelords. I parroted after Vit and Eris who are seen as "cowboys" but when I do, "kind flower", oh woe, you expect for "it" to be unscathed.

Instead of being applauded for change or whatnot, I got lecture.

That is not to say I don't get it, but it just shows how there can't be "real change" in society everybody wants so, nowadays. So seems to be incentive of "underground schizo forum". Nice...

(^something similar to what i already replied to you upon your writing to me - "i wanna be like you (Vit, Eris, Boxer...)"-phrase)

3am thoughts about it all, right after ban (not to cry out, but to get my POV (as said before))

Defence I wrote

(What being banned taught me)

It taught me that snark, without being too obvious, can never be so good how it can totally go wrong and be misunderstood. To put /s there next time …

Brutal, stupid, and cut into the wrong place. What that could be, was just a funny clip about… Something. Yet it, by the look back, looks totally regarded and not funny even as satire. Maybe it was funny to me because I was "in the flow" - writing crass.

I wrote it because I wanted to see weird stuff. How [they] hate [him, SP (me)] because… Basically of what we saw today, because every time he posts, it is either pain or nonsense, or both at once - I wanted to wrote how HK finally snaps and reverse Carrie force leads others to "randomly" (fate? plot?) meet, despite all odds.

It had to be funny, but boiled down into (usual, Porcupine) shit. Instead of Mike Meyers humor, it became New Velma -tier self-insert, arguably even worse than that one…

But I doubt that even if others would get it, or better that terrible part with V-h got deleted, the form, still, misses something crucial, yet to be believed/solved.

dellor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TyP-WeCWJg

>>0x000007

> You can't escape the kind of artist you have trained to be.

deep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDLLd16L6ZQ

me to my friend, "do you get this reference"

> Yes. The bajorans are like jewish dlave workers at a nazi death camp. But even after the bajorans sieze control of the station, there is an automated system they set off. Its a recroding that plays during a lockdown that is meant to kill them off if they took control.

>>0x000001

> idk

yes it does still work, but I also have to wait 60 seconds to test if the reply works

I edited the Dada Manifesto (1918) by Tristan Tzara to be easier to consume for modern day retards

https://goeshard.org/2025/06/03/dada-manifesto-1918-by-tristan-tzara/

The original translation I had was

https://writing.upenn.edu/library/Tzara_Dada-Manifesto_1918.pdf

>>0x00002a

I agree with your sentiment abour vaporwave as a music genre. It's incredibly disappointing to see not just how vaporwave is used as a vehicle for people trying to push commercial music and commercial record labels in this day and age, but also how people who were on the cutting edge of the genre in the early twenty tens shed all their scruples and race to show their faces as fast they can to capitalize on it.

As a visual aesthetic I tend to be more forgiving. The worst crime that visual artists commit when doing vaporwave is copying people before them, or often times, not being aware of the genre as a sonic movement at all. There is arguably a problem with people not knowing the difference between synthwave aesthetic and vaporwave aesthetic, but overall I'm not as strict in my critiques of the visual aesthetics.

Despite sharing the same name, they don't always have that much in common (the visual and sonic). A lot of times the visual representations had more to do with the early 2010s than with vaporwave in particular, which just happened to blossom at the same time as those visual aesthetics.

Because it's an imageboard, I thought it would be cool to gather a collection of art to put into the thread and show off the image displaying functionality of the site. But I agree completely that vaporwave is more important as music genre than a visual art genre, as iconic as the aesthetic is at this point. It is sad that the majority of people will never know or care about that.

Invest in talc. It massively reduces stickiness and chaffing in the groin and arm pits.

Stay hydrated.

Make ghetto air con - put bottles of water in the freezer and bring them out to melt in the room you want to chill. Put them behind a fan for best results.

Close the curtains of the windows facing the sun.

At night open your doors and windows to cause a breeze to pass through the house.

Use thin sheets to wick away sweat.

Buy some fans to move air around your house.

Don't cook - eat more salads and sandwiches so you aren't running a box of fire in your house.

Turn off lights and get low energy lightbulbs - they put out less heat.

Keep windows closed if it's hotter outside

Grow trees and plants in your garden - they reflect heat and also absorb it. They also release water which draws the heat away.

I dread summer and it gets worse every year. Fuck climate change.

A lot of the images posted above are post-vaporwave, which is a genre defined by the influence of vaporwave long after it has been and gone. You'll find the Helios head and major 80s icons mixed with liminal spaces and neon pink. It is big in AI generated content and Instagram filler, which is like the fleamarket of the internet. If this sounds like a value judgement it's because it is.

Vaporwave was initially a spur of plunderphonics, a sort of shitpost subgenre of sample music. The genre of Vaporwave diversified into further subgenres like signalwave. Early vaporwave is best defined by Macintosh Cafe - Floral Shoppe and Eccojams Vol 1. This was experimental music with heavy reliance on familiar materials warped and distorted. The familiar was the canvas upon which the distortion became the feature.

Most notably, vaporwave is anti-commercial and stirs up questions of ownership and commercial failure, which is not something that can be done when making commercial-friendly music (i.e. using "original" samples to avoid takedown requests). By making remixes of commercial music it is making a clear statement of intent - this music is not for sale.

This movement into commercialising a hobby saw the rise of the Slushwave genre, spearheaded by "Desert sand feels warm at night". He conducts slushwave parties, which have a wide selection of sample-based artists. The Slushwave parties are good fun, but the artists are rarely vaporwave or vaporwave adjacent, with the majority using their own original samples, or masking as related in order to sell to a new audience.

This says something wider on the topic of the art as a whole. Initially vaporwave asked "what can music and ownership be?". Post-vaporwave says "these are the icons of vaporwave, you must use them as symbols - but you must only reference them by their shadows in order to keep the lawyers placated".

Vaporwave was pottery. Post-vaporwave is the endless recreation of legally distinct Ming Vases.

>>0x000007

> overly muscled Moe

...never thought about it that way but you have a point.

It looks like the comic cuts off before the sex fantasy begins. Everything in this comic points towards an erotic comic - the overly muscled Moe, the dark male hands, the tentacles in a shadowy bedroom pulling the character back into the bed. You can't escape the kind of artist you have trained to be.

it's going to be over 40C here at the height of Summer...

>>0x000001

guys, it's +23°C for me today. rest in peace

While I cannot disclose my exact location due to security critical opsec reasons, it is the asscrack of the world where winter lasts 2 months and the rest of the year is fuck you in the ass humidity and summer.

I absolutely dread it. I love going outside and taking long walks, and you just can't this time of year.

The best defense I have against it:

> take multiple showers per day

> portable ac unit that hooks to window for room you sleep in

>>0x000028

> don't worry

> you can't kill this board more than it already is

> https://powerlunch.bandcamp.com/album/downstream-integrationBandcamp Album

https://powerlunch.bandcamp.com/album/downstream-integration

slaps! you made?

>>0x000026

> sadly, yes

> tho these are l efforts, i did them as meme/neoprotovapor (or not and i am in point of self-irony for sake of hiding emberassment...)

> also, calling this genre "zoomerwave/zilleniwave" unless it might be anything-but what you, than me, would have in mind under that (term) :

>

> enjoy (or cringe, idk anyway)

sorry for killing this, its your turn to post some tunes you made/sampled! (maybe)

>>0x000006

this is so beautiful. You have to stick with it but the climax at the end is just perfect.

Video is my favorite music video in all screamo.

Not that it was ever a genre big on MV but yeah.

I remember when /trash/ used to be good.

>>0x00000f

It was definitely social suicide to be a playboy dude in a band in a small local scene by 2015. It was only a matter of time before one of those girls decided to axe you.

I'm not denying that it happens. It happens all the time but it goes both ways.

During that time period, there was no question: If a woman decides to say you're a creep, the whole community would outcast you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U27v64sflKo

See how 0x000004 is now at the top but you can still tell the original OP was 0x000001?

That is a feature.